Harley-Davidson (HOG) Q4 Loss Challenges Bullish Earnings Resilience Narratives
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Harley-Davidson (HOG) has wrapped up FY 2025 with a bumpy finish, as Q4 revenue came in at US$496.2 million and the company reported a loss per share of US$2.44, compared to a Q3 stretch that featured US$1.3 billion in revenue and EPS of US$3.13. Over the past few quarters, revenue has moved from US$1.3 billion in Q1 2025, to US$1.3 billion in Q2 and US$1.3 billion in Q3, before easing back to US$496.2 million in Q4. EPS ranged from US$1.07 in Q1 to US$0.89 in Q2 and US$3.13 in Q3, and then into loss territory in Q4, setting up a mixed read on Harley-Davidson’s margin story and future earnings power.
See our full analysis for Harley-Davidson.With the headline numbers on the table, the next step is to see how this earnings profile lines up with the big narratives around Harley-Davidson, and where the latest margin and growth signals push back against those stories.
TTM profit of US$338.7 million vs Q4 loss
- Across the last twelve months, Harley-Davidson earned US$338.7 million in net income and US$2.82 in EPS, even though Q4 alone showed a net loss of US$279.3 million and a loss per share of US$2.44.
- Bulls argue that earnings power can hold up even when individual quarters are weak, and the numbers partly support that view:
- Trailing 12 month net margin sits at 7.6%, compared with 8.8% a year ago, so profitability is still positive but not as strong as before.
- Analysts are forecasting around 8.8% annual earnings growth while also expecting revenue to decline about 2.9% a year. This sets a high bar for the bullish view that cost programs and mix can offset softer sales.
Margins slip from 8.8% to 7.6%
- Net profit margin over the last year is 7.6%, down from 8.8% in the prior year, and the latest quarter swung to a loss of US$279.3 million on US$496.2 million of revenue.
- Bears focus on the pressure this puts on the business model, and the data gives them some support:
- Expected revenue decline of about 2.9% per year over the next three years, combined with the lower margin, aligns with the cautious view that unit volumes and pricing are under strain.
- An unstable dividend record and recent insider selling also sit awkwardly next to weaker margins, which critics see as signals that cash returns and confidence are not on a firmly rising path right now.
Low 7.3x P/E and DCF fair value gap
- At a share price of US$20.94, Harley-Davidson trades on a P/E of 7.3x, compared with 19.7x for the global auto industry and 24.9x for peers, and below a DCF fair value of about US$29.36.
- Supporters of the company’s valuation story point to this gap, but the fundamentals add some tension:
- The stock sits roughly 28.7% below the DCF fair value estimate, yet trailing 12 month earnings have fallen from US$501.1 million a year ago to US$338.7 million now, which helps explain why the market is cautious.
- Analysts also expect revenue to contract over the next few years, so any case that the low P/E and discount to DCF fair value signal a clear bargain has to address those softer top line expectations.
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